Wednesday, January 31, 2007

Kissinger, Albright and Missing Strategies - pt. 2

Notes from Madeliene Albright

She cut straight to the chase by saying she was plain and blunt and that there are no good options in Iraq. Every alternative carries with it grave risks. We have lost control.

Assign missions that make sense.

Quote from a soldier: Wouldn't know who to shoot at unless I was shot at.

Iraqis must take lead.

Don't have the moral or legal ground to force action.

Have to focus on Al Qaida and the Taliban
and Iran's influence in Iraq.
There is danger of region-wide war.

This year will be brutal.


Have to attempt political settlement and increase diplomatic activity.

Talk to Syria. Ahmenijhad is not the person to talk to.

Nuclear program?

(To the Senators-- Please ask detailed questions.)

There are aircraft carriers in the Gulf.

It would be interesting to know why.

Need to have meaningful Arab Israeli talks.

Peace is the right goal to attempt to achieve.

You cannot build a democracy without democratic principles.

Has some concerns that after this that supporting democracy will be given up.

NATO training of Iraqi forces.

Must involve religious leaders. (All believe God is on their side.)

God is on the side of Peace.

Prisoner treatment.

Settlement and rebuilding.

Would that America becomes America again.

?



BOXER.


Impressed that there is vision and the actual mention of the word Peace. At least two times.

Concerned there is paralysis setting in.

Must think and talk peace and diplomacy.

MA: I want to hear Malaki, "Who the hell is shooting at me?"


BIDEN

Vision.
Break through... Kissinger moving toward Biden Plan.
Resolution cannot come from America.

Must act IN diplomacy.

CAMBRION: Is it not time for diplomacy?

BOXER:
One third of the Senate attended hearings on Global Warming yesterday.
Urgency and sense of....?

ALBRIGHT:

Need a surge of diplomacy.

Regional diplomatic approach.

Maintain territorial integrity of Iraq.

Federalism not brought to table early on.... unfortunately.

Not regional autonomy.
Don't pursue or precipitate break up.
Biden Plan never called for this.

If we increase Al Sadar will simply become mobil and increase his numberts.

MA:
Plan is to keep Iraq together.
Initiate dialog.
What is going on with Iran


LUGAR
Anarchy
Local groups who exercise some authority.
Shia Sunni.

ALBRIGHT

Stages to democracy.
All people want to be responsible for their own lives.
Can't impose democracy.
Many early mistakes.
Democracy isn't an event. It is a process.

(National Democracy Institute.
Just lost Andrea Parvich.
Want support not imposition.

Must be careful or there will be an Arab Persian War.
Desire shifts absorped peacefull.

Risks
Power versus control.
Troubled by America's reputation.
There is now suspicion of all motives.
Use diplomach. Regional focus/ vision.

colonial powers. Brit ( to U.S.) /France.
Motives are suspect.
We need help.
Share the contracts.
Respect of Troops. eventually strength in moral U.S.A.

No military solutions.
Create minority rights and find common ground.

Little Faith in Malaki
(she doesn't know him)
benchmarks not timetables.
Permanent bases?

Senator: Iraq Study Group. Traveled to Syria. met with asad. some cooperation until assassination of Harari.

ALBRIGHT
We gain through discussion with those with whom we disagree.

Iran/Syria - interesting (given differences history)

Need Israel Syria talks.
both interests are the opposite of yours.

She worked with Asad's father.
Ask Madinijhad. (not easy) a "complex" history.
Preposterous statements.

Tom Friedman's column today.


Saudi Arabia (CIA) and the many personal relationships with the royal family.
Didn't really get picture of Saudis working with tribal contacts to help Iraq.
Saudis are worried about changes in their own country.

Need constant contact, not spur of the moment trips.

1327 yrs of conflict. We can't bring them together.

Mighty and the Almighty (bk. by M. Albright.)

Senator Casey question.
military strategy:
1. since 2003
2. what should we do?
3. sustained.

No comprehensive approach. What is the role of diplomacy?

ALBRIGHT
Force and diplomacy working together.
not a chess game, more like pool.
balls knocking into other balls.
need horizontal diplomacy.

And N. Korea is watching.

Senator: 3- 6 month list.

Israel Palestinian issue
(Quartet mtg. Friday)
Contact List of Regions. Executive Committee.
Get other countries helping.
--training
--reconstruction.

Biden: The presidential plan is a tactic.
McCain making a last chance effort.

American people will walk away.

Need specific plan.
per Bosnia / Kosavo ------ had Dayton discussions and accords.
(these countries are no working toward reconciliation.

Where are the plans!?!?

Why won't the admin. do this?

Bring in other countries.

(neighbors/targets)

Trust isn't going to happen.

No possibility of strong central government in the next ten years.

Need conference.
Need breathing space.

She is deeply concerned about America's problems.

Trouble with this democratic
-- militarization of democracy.

Biden:
Reality
Political Solutions
Internal Community

or we will have a
"The mountains are our only friends" scenario.


Notes from Madeliene Albright

She cut straight to the chase by saying she was plain and blunt and that there are no good options in Iraq. Every alternative carries with it grave risks. We have lost control.

Assign missions that make sense.

Quote from a soldier: Wouldn't know who to shoot at unless I was shot at.

Iraqis must take lead.

Don't have the moral or legal ground to force action.

Have to focus on Al Qaida and the Taliban
and Iran's influence in Iraq.
There is danger of region-wide war.

This year will be brutal.


Have to attempt political settlement and increase diplomatic activity.

Talk to Syria. Ahmenijhad is not the person to talk to.

Nuclear program?

(To the Senators-- Please ask detailed questions.)

There are aircraft carriers in the Gulf.

It would be interesting to know why.

Need to have meaningful Arab Israeli talks.

Peace is the right goal to attempt to achieve.

You cannot build a democracy without democratic principles.

Has some concerns that after this that supporting democracy will be given up.

NATO training of Iraqi forces.

Must involve religious leaders. (All believe God is on their side.)

God is on the side of Peace.

Prisoner treatment.

Settlement and rebuilding.

Would that America becomes America again.

?



BOXER.


Impressed that there is vision and the actual mention of the word Peace. At least two times.

Concerned there is paralysis setting in.

Must think and talk peace and diplomacy.

MA: I want to hear Malaki, "Who the hell is shooting at me?"


BIDEN

Vision.
Break through... Kissinger moving toward Biden Plan.
Resolution cannot come from America.

Must act IN diplomacy.

CAMBRION: Is it not time for diplomacy?

BOXER:
One third of the Senate attended hearings on Global Warming yesterday.
Urgency and sense of....?

ALBRIGHT:

Need a surge of diplomacy.

Regional diplomatic approach.

Maintain territorial integrity of Iraq.

Federalism not brought to table early on.... unfortunately.

Not regional autonomy.
Don't pursue or precipitate break up.
Biden Plan never called for this.

If we increase Al Sadar will simply become mobil and increase his numberts.

MA:
Plan is to keep Iraq together.
Initiate dialog.
What is going on with Iran


LUGAR
Anarchy
Local groups who exercise some authority.
Shia Sunni.

ALBRIGHT

Stages to democracy.
All people want to be responsible for their own lives.
Can't impose democracy.
Many early mistakes.
Democracy isn't an event. It is a process.

(National Democracy Institute.
Just lost Andrea Parvich.
Want support not imposition.

Must be careful or there will be an Arab Persian War.
Desire shifts absorped peacefull.

Risks
Power versus control.
Troubled by America's reputation.
There is now suspicion of all motives.
Use diplomach. Regional focus/ vision.

colonial powers. Brit ( to U.S.) /France.
Motives are suspect.
We need help.
Share the contracts.
Respect of Troops. eventually strength in moral U.S.A.

No military solutions.
Create minority rights and find common ground.

Little Faith in Malaki
(she doesn't know him)
benchmarks not timetables.
Permanent bases?

Senator: Iraq Study Group. Traveled to Syria. met with asad. some cooperation until assassination of Harari.

ALBRIGHT
We gain through discussion with those with whom we disagree.

Iran/Syria - interesting (given differences history)

Need Israel Syria talks.
both interests are the opposite of yours.

She worked with Asad's father.
Ask Madinijhad. (not easy) a "complex" history.
Preposterous statements.

Tom Friedman's column today.


Saudi Arabia (CIA) and the many personal relationships with the royal family.
Didn't really get picture of Saudis working with tribal contacts to help Iraq.
Saudis are worried about changes in their own country.

Need constant contact, not spur of the moment trips.

1327 yrs of conflict. We can't bring them together.

Mighty and the Almighty (bk. by M. Albright.)

Senator Casey question.
military strategy:
1. since 2003
2. what should we do?
3. sustained.

No comprehensive approach. What is the role of diplomacy?

ALBRIGHT
Force and diplomacy working together.
not a chess game, more like pool.
balls knocking into other balls.
need horizontal diplomacy.

And N. Korea is watching.

Senator: 3- 6 month list.

Israel Palestinian issue
(Quartet mtg. Friday)
Contact List of Regions. Executive Committee.
Get other countries helping.
--training
--reconstruction.

Biden: The presidential plan is a tactic.
McCain making a last chance effort.

American people will walk away.

Need specific plan.
per Bosnia / Kosavo ------ had Dayton discussions and accords.
(these countries are no working toward reconciliation.

Where are the plans!?!?

Why won't the admin. do this?

Bring in other countries.

(neighbors/targets)

Trust isn't going to happen.

No possibility of strong central government in the next ten years.

Need conference.
Need breathing space.

She is deeply concerned about America's problems.

Trouble with this democratic
-- militarization of democracy.

Biden:
Reality
Political Solutions
Internal Community

or we will have a
"The mountains are our only friends" scenario.



Notes from Madeliene Albright

She cut straight to the chase by saying she was plain and blunt and that there are no good options in Iraq. Every alternative carries with it grave risks. We have lost control.

Assign missions that make sense.

Quote from a soldier: Wouldn't know who to shoot at unless I was shot at.

Iraqis must take lead.

Don't have the moral or legal ground to force action.

Have to focus on Al Qaida and the Taliban
and Iran's influence in Iraq.
There is danger of region-wide war.

This year will be brutal.


Have to attempt political settlement and increase diplomatic activity.

Talk to Syria. Ahmenijhad is not the person to talk to.

Nuclear program?

(To the Senators-- Please ask detailed questions.)

There are aircraft carriers in the Gulf.

It would be interesting to know why.

Need to have meaningful Arab Israeli talks.

Peace is the right goal to attempt to achieve.

You cannot build a democracy without democratic principles.

Has some concerns that after this that supporting democracy will be given up.

NATO training of Iraqi forces.

Must involve religious leaders. (All believe God is on their side.)

God is on the side of Peace.

Prisoner treatment.

Settlement and rebuilding.

Would that America becomes America again.

?



BOXER.


Impressed that there is vision and the actual mention of the word Peace. At least two times.

Concerned there is paralysis setting in.

Must think and talk peace and diplomacy.

MA: I want to hear Malaki, "Who the hell is shooting at me?"


BIDEN

Vision.
Break through... Kissinger moving toward Biden Plan.
Resolution cannot come from America.

Must act IN diplomacy.

CAMBRION: Is it not time for diplomacy?

BOXER:
One third of the Senate attended hearings on Global Warming yesterday.
Urgency and sense of....?

ALBRIGHT:

Need a surge of diplomacy.

Regional diplomatic approach.

Maintain territorial integrity of Iraq.

Federalism not brought to table early on.... unfortunately.

Not regional autonomy.
Don't pursue or precipitate break up.
Biden Plan never called for this.

If we increase Al Sadar will simply become mobil and increase his numberts.

MA:
Plan is to keep Iraq together.
Initiate dialog.
What is going on with Iran


LUGAR
Anarchy
Local groups who exercise some authority.
Shia Sunni.

ALBRIGHT

Stages to democracy.
All people want to be responsible for their own lives.
Can't impose democracy.
Many early mistakes.
Democracy isn't an event. It is a process.

(National Democracy Institute.
Just lost Andrea Parvich.
Want support not imposition.

Must be careful or there will be an Arab Persian War.
Desire shifts absorped peacefull.

Risks
Power versus control.
Troubled by America's reputation.
There is now suspicion of all motives.
Use diplomach. Regional focus/ vision.

colonial powers. Brit ( to U.S.) /France.
Motives are suspect.
We need help.
Share the contracts.
Respect of Troops. eventually strength in moral U.S.A.

No military solutions.
Create minority rights and find common ground.

Little Faith in Malaki
(she doesn't know him)
benchmarks not timetables.
Permanent bases?

Senator: Iraq Study Group. Traveled to Syria. met with asad. some cooperation until assassination of Harari.

ALBRIGHT
We gain through discussion with those with whom we disagree.

Iran/Syria - interesting (given differences history)

Need Israel Syria talks.
both interests are the opposite of yours.

She worked with Asad's father.
Ask Madinijhad. (not easy) a "complex" history.
Preposterous statements.

Tom Friedman's column today.


Saudi Arabia (CIA) and the many personal relationships with the royal family.
Didn't really get picture of Saudis working with tribal contacts to help Iraq.
Saudis are worried about changes in their own country.

Need constant contact, not spur of the moment trips.

1327 yrs of conflict. We can't bring them together.

Mighty and the Almighty (bk. by M. Albright.)

Senator Casey question.
military strategy:
1. since 2003
2. what should we do?
3. sustained.

No comprehensive approach. What is the role of diplomacy?

ALBRIGHT
Force and diplomacy working together.
not a chess game, more like pool.
balls knocking into other balls.
need horizontal diplomacy.

And N. Korea is watching.

Senator: 3- 6 month list.

Israel Palestinian issue
(Quartet mtg. Friday)
Contact List of Regions. Executive Committee.
Get other countries helping.
--training
--reconstruction.

Biden: The presidential plan is a tactic.
McCain making a last chance effort.

American people will walk away.

Need specific plan.
per Bosnia / Kosavo ------ had Dayton discussions and accords.
(these countries are no working toward reconciliation.

Where are the plans!?!?

Why won't the admin. do this?

Bring in other countries.

(neighbors/targets)

Trust isn't going to happen.

No possibility of strong central government in the next ten years.

Need conference.
Need breathing space.

She is deeply concerned about America's problems.

Trouble with this democratic
-- militarization of democracy.

Biden:
Reality
Political Solutions
Internal Community

or we will have a
"The mountains are our only friends" scenario.

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